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  • Centive
    Centive is in a dog fight with several other compensation management vendors such as Xactly and Callidus. What I like about Centive is that they are based on a solid architecture thatmakes them very scalable. More importantly though, Centive has a big picture idea of compensation as a strategic tool and their system aims at not just getting the sales representatives paid but also at helping managers develop plans and manage territories. Watch Centive develop into a company that does a lot more than ensure the accuracy of the commission check.
  • Communispace
    You know those little 100 calorie snacks that help dieters stick to their regimines? Ever wonder where they came from or who got the idea? They were the result of involving customers in the product development process through innovative on-line focus groups hosted by Communispace. This company has a knack for bringing customers and vendors together to share ideas and capture "The Voice of the Customer." Lots of major companies are flocking to Communispace because they're on to something.
  • Eloqua
    Eloqua is bringing a true methodology to marketing and customers are showing great results. Rather than blindly sending out email or generating tactical campaigns designed to find low hanging fruit, Eloqua's approach is to conduct marketing that establishes a dialog that naturally results in more leads and more efficient closes. This on demand tool is closely integrated with Salesforce.com and other implementations are coming soon.
  • Firepond
    This is cool. In an era when we spend more and more time and effort focused on governance and compliance issues too many companies rely on spreadsheets to configure and price complex solutions. The result? Orders with missing parts, too many parts, the wrong parts. Also, who is in charge of pricing and disscounts? All the time? What falls through the cracks? Do you know? Fixing the situation is often labor intensive and expensive. Better to avoid them in the first place. Firepond is a CPQ -- configuration, pricing and quotation tool that no sales organization should be without. It generates accurate quotes fast and everything that goes on in it is auditable. Gotta like that...
  • Kadient
    Kadient is another company in the mold of trying to improve how we sell. There is no doubt about the primacy of SFA but increasingly it is not enough. Sales people are continuously looking for resources and best practices and often sales departments are short on the systems and techniques of organizing such information. As a result, reps rely on email to each other and brute force effort to re-invent the wheel each time a presentation or proposal needs to be created. Kadient's solutions enable sales people to work smarter and therefore faster. The result is more and better shots on goal. Who wouldn't vote for that?
  • NetSuite
    I like what NetSuite does. One stop for accounting, e-commerce and CRM. For a small or emerging company, NetSuite can deliver all of the functionality it needs to inventory product, run all of the accounting functions and all the CRM as well as eCommerce. Pretty good. The company is doing well and is poised for an IPO. I look for them to make a lot of noise in the near future.
  • Sage Software
    Lots of us forget that the most used contact management software solutions is ACT! with more then 2.5 million users. Sage owns ACT! as well as SageCRM (formerly ACCPAC), and SalesLogix -- CRM for every budget. But they also own a lot of back office accounting software like the MAS series, Simply Accounting, and PeachTree accounting -- accounting for every budget. They have a powerful combination of solutions for SOHO, SMB and mid-size companies. Worth paying attention to.
  • Salesforce.com
    I've been covering these guys since the earth cooled and I have always believed the OnDemand model would be a major disruptive innovation. They have a few rough edges but if you want to start a successful software company you could do a lot worse.

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  • Paul Greenberg
    Perhaps the dean of CRM writers, Paul wrote the book (literally) on CRM -- CRM at the Speed of Light. His insight and analysis are always interesting and frequently humorous. He is a witty and urbane observer of human nature.
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February 27, 2008

Picking a community partner

A community, a.k.a. community of interest, is usually thought of as a large group of people with some common reason for associating.  These days that usually comes down to the user group but in practice a community can be any group that is passionate about a product or service and wants to improve it.  Communities are as old as the hills and I have often cited the informal gatherings of enthusiasts for the steam engine that sprang up spontaneously in the English Midlands in the middle of the eighteenth Century.  In a short time these enthusiasts helped turn an unwieldy contraption into the heart of the Industrial Revolution.

Not much has changed.  Today and the idea of community is making a comeback for many good reasons.  First among them, communities work, and also, with social media all the rage, communities have become very affordable and computing technology has amplified their impact, making them a great vehicle to drive innovation and growth.  It’s no surprise, then, that lots of vendors are elbowing each other aside to claim the mantle of community and at this point, a confused public might well ask, “What makes a community anyhow — and how do I choose a partner?” Below is my unscientific summation of what to look for when trying to select a community.

Make sure that they understand what a “community” is.  Many suppliers use the word community, because it’s “hot”, but they aren’t actually building a community.  For instance, if the supplier builds a website and invites 5,000 people to “join”, and if the “members” don’t know each other and don’t interact with each other, it’s probably more of a panel rather than a community.  The difference is important because a community proves its value when members examine and share ideas.  A panel is just a fancy survey mechanism.

Understand their specific capabilities.  There is a wide array of objectives that communities address.  Find out where the supplier has expertise.  You might want to look at the Forrester construct for the types of objectives for different communities:  Listening, Speaking, Energizing, Supporting and Embracing.  Ask the supplier what they are good at then match your requirements to their strengths.  If they say “everything”, assume that they aren’t being straight with you.

Get clear on their engagement metrics.  Any community vendor should be able to specify three numbers for you that describe an engagement pyramid.  At the base is the number of members you’ll have; in the middle, the number who will come in and read, but not actually participate and create content; and at the top the number who actually will participate.  The higher the participation numbers, the higher the engagement — which is really where the gold is.

Make sure you understand what you are getting for your money.  Will the supplier recruit members for you? Will you get weekly reports?  Will the supplier monitor participation and interact with your community members?  How often?  Will the supplier do some work for you, or will you have to do it yourself?  “Self-service” often sounds good, and it’s very profitable for the supplier, but you might not have time for that option.  Furthermore, managing a community is a skill that you might not have in-house and your community’s success is dependent on that skill.  Remember, if it was easy to do everyone would already be doing it.

Get references.  It never hurts, especially in a new market like this.  Ask the supplier for the names of three clients they’ve worked with for at least six months.  Call those clients and ask about their experience.  Would they do anything differently?  Focus especially on what happened when there were problems or when service was especially important.

Visit the supplier’s offices.  If you are spending a lot of money and a significant portion of your budget, you should kick some tires.  Meet the management and prospective members of the team that would manage your account.  Talk about your needs and your vision and see if there is overlap.  Make sure you feel that they will be able to build confidence with executives in your company.  Ask for biographies of their staff and make sure that you have partners with experience that is relevant for your company and industry.  Lastly, understand whether there is depth in the organization, and notice whether you feel more or less confident after that visit. 

Ask if they’ll work with your partners.  If you have an ad agency or PR firm or other interactive partner, find out whether they are willing to integrate their efforts with that firm.

Find out what’s new.  Ask about their future plans, their innovation priorities, how their solution will change over the course of your relationship, and so on.  If you are working in the community arena, you want a supplier who has ambitious plans for the future and who will keep up with you.

Understand their experience.  Ask for case studies of companies they have worked with in the past.  See if they can talk about their lessons learned, their mistakes, and how they have improved as a result.  Organizing a community is as much about methodology and service as it is about technology.  Beware of companies that just seem to have good technology, but who lack the real-world experience to handle your complex needs.

Ask the ROI question.  Many emerging companies do not have good ROI numbers because it’s hard to calculate and our research shows that customers often don’t take stock of their situation before plunging ahead with an implementation.  In that case everyone is left to wonder what the ‘real’ ROI is.  So if the prospective vendor cannot give you an ROI statement don’t be put off but weigh it in relation to the answers to all the other questions.

Picking a community vendor/partner might not be easy at this stage of the market’s evolution, but remember, it’s the early adopters that get the biggest returns on their investments in new technology.

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Great list, thanks for this. There's a lot of players out in this space, and narrowing down on needs is critical.

Hi- I'm playing around with the concept of value-added social networks... 1. Pick a product category like ERP. 2. Find cheap or free open source software, then buy a copy. 3. Replace the user management module with a social network. 4. Publicize the social network in the community that needs ERP but can't afford it yet or is still making a research decision. 5. Sell meaningful ad space to companies that are ERP vendors as a relationship broker to the social network that comes to the site to use the cheap or free ERP software.... 6. Let the ERP vendors build and advertise modules that migrate data from the social network to their product. Do you think that would be a workable community model?

-Amanda

Amanda,

Hard to see how this would work with such mission critical software but there's nothing wrong with trying.

Denis

Really good post with some excellent metric suggestions. As you conclude, as it is such an early stage getting references etc is going to be quite tough so a long standing relationship and trust will play a big part in the decision making process.

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